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 Post subject: Parbuckling Rig
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:D Hi all, I've been busy working on my truck. The log in these pix is pretty close to my target log size. I can get 10" boards from this log and that makes great B&B siding. I am testing my new log parbuckling system with this log because it's what I'll be hauling the most of. I thought I might be building it light with 2 1/2" square tube steel with 1/4" walls. So,... I welded a 1/4" flat plate at the connection at the hinge point to make it stout. Seems to work great. :D I'm sure I'll have some glitches to work out but it's coming together real nice. The winch in the pix is only good for 2000lb. It's set up for testing only but had no trouble loading it. However it will not hold a log in place half way up the ramps, so it will be replaced with an 8000lbs winch. 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Parbuckling Rig
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I am glad you got that welder hooked up Randy. That truck is looking good. If you want to save some money the 5500 lb winch pulled that big log on my trailer. Much cheaper to. Been meaning to come by but have been snowed under. I am in process of moving controls for choke and gas and key down lower on mill. Plus I got a little contracting job. Let me know if you need anything.I will come see you soon. Never heard back from Sammy. His tree cutting days may be over.

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 Post subject: Re: Parbuckling Rig
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:D Hey Jeff, that welder rocks. :shock: Make's some pretty welds. Thank you very much for letting me barrow it. I still have a lot to do with it, but it's all coming together. I got all the tires changed and now need tags & Ins. and I'll be ready.

BTW, where do I get that winch like yours? 8)

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Harbor Frieght but wait till it is on sale. Got mine for $229.00

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 Post subject: Re: Parbuckling Rig
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Looks great, I think I would make some extensions that could slide over the ends to make it go out further. The reason is that if you are loading on a low bank the slope of the ramp woud be easier on the winch even on level ground. It will make the winch last longer and work easier. If you are worried about the log weight on longer ramps you could make a support that would be mounted on the inside of the ramp you have now and just pivot down when needed. Just my idea.

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Looks great, I think I would make some extensions that could slide over the ends to make it go out further. The reason is that if you are loading on a low bank the slope of the ramp woud be easier on the winch even on level ground. It will make the winch last longer and work easier. If you are worried about the log weight on longer ramps you could make a support that would be mounted on the inside of the ramp you have now and just pivot down when needed. Just my idea.

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:D Hey Ken, thats a great idea!!! However I already have inserts on the inside and they slide out to make both ends hit the ground at the same time, even on unlevel ground. They will extend it 3 more feet. Thanks for the insight though. The kicker to help support the ramps in the middle is a GREAT idea. Good to know I have people like you all to catch my errors. In a helpfull way, not like some forums that all they want to do is tear your ideas and contraptions down and tell you how there's no way thats going to work. Just about everything I've been told wouldn't work,... worked GREAT. I'm an ex crane operator and proffessional rigger so when I'm told what won't work,... I gotta prove them wrong. If you understand leverage,... you can make it happen. Have a good one Ken. 8)

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That's a most impressive loading system. It looks very much like the log loading arms on a Woodmizer or a Timberking sawmill. It wouldn't take very much more to make the ramp rise under power, either winch or hydraulic, to raise the log onto the truck.


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 Post subject: Re: Parbuckling Rig
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Looks good randy,,
Yes what jeffober says about the 5500lb HF winch will do the job,, thats whats on my crane,,,,thats a great start to gettin logs,, one of these days you'll get more high tech,, the foundleing you have to do with logs the better,, you know,, just hook your tongs to and lift.

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Well Randy
Hows the parbuckling Rig going??
Get any more work done on it,, cant wait to here about your adventure in getting youur 1st load of logs.

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:D Hey Robert, we might be going out today for a load. It's rather overcast out so I'm not sure yet. We can't get these logs out, on wet ground. I still have to get some side posts welded on as well. I can still haul some logs, just not as many as if I had the sides done. I'm going to make a video of it ASAP. 8)

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:D Just got a new pulling, draging, hoisting machine. I went a little overboard, but I'm tired of looking like a monkey doing a football. I got a 9000lb winch that will load logs or tear something up trying. It was on sale but still had a little sting to it.
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That's what I am talking about. You just can't hide money! Looking good!

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:D Having trouble hearing you Jeff, did you say you liked honey??? That winch set me back a bit but I'm tired of things working about half as good as I need them to work. This one will load any log I can mill with a single part line. I have it made so that it is very EZ to put on & remove. Except for the weight. :shock: Man I like EZ 8) :lol: YouTube has changed and I haven't figured out how to embed videos yet, so follow the link. 8)

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You go around once in this world. You should at least have the things you need to make your life easier. I am happy for you brother. It always brings me pleasure to see a plan come together. Can't wait to see that bad boy loaded. Watch out for the weight man.

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I liked the little laugh at the end of video, have you though about going into movies? Maybe you should get an agent first. Oh I the rig works great too. How high do you plan on loading logs? Does the cable just drag across loaded logs?


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Question on electric wench. I put one on the back of a old dodge truck I have here to use for whatever. When I pull the cable all the way out maybe 75 ft. and pull it in its slows down about 1/2 way. So the battery is getting weaker I guess. Do any of you have that problem and any suggestions. Or is it just going to be like that?


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Very Nice WB. Those ramps are stout. Didn't even flex at all moving that log up.
Is that winch 12 volt AND 120. Couldn't tell by the pic.


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:D Hi X, I have to have the truck running or it WILL kill the battery. I am tickled to pieces with the winch though. It's strong enough it will load all the log my mill can handle with a single part line. It's good for 11500lbs. with a two part line. It should be 18000lbs but I guess the steel the body is made from will break with any more than 11500lbs. I'm going to get a large white oak today and for the first time, I have no doubts about getting it, :lol: 8)

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Very Nice WB. Those ramps are stout. Didn't even flex at all moving that log up.
Is that winch 12 volt AND 120. Couldn't tell by the pic.


:D Hey Harry, the winch is 12volt only. I am going to test it today on a big white oak log. I think it's gonna do Great. 8)

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You better watch those big logs. As you know I have personal experience with them. I haven't fixed my trailer yet.

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